Pro and Con 993

Posted 1-22-03

Possible origin of the Sign of the Fish design

To me, this shows another good reason to believe that both the Star of David and the Sign of the Fish symbols represent Christ. MichaEL Erik Rickles showed me this design.

Print out his circled Star of David on P & C 992. Adjust your compass for the same radius as the circle.

Draw 3 more circles of the same size centered on each tip of one triangle. The fish design will appear between the apex and base line of the other triangle. There will 3 designs, like the Trinity

Saturn's permanent hexagram in the clouds above the north pole

http://222.mufor.org/mars/sathex.jpg

In 1988, when looking at pictures made by Voyager in 1980 and 1981, this hex design was found. There is no hex at the south pole. These standing wave patterns in the clouds at the north pole are repeated 6 times to form the hexagon with a circle around it. The planet Saturn is permanently stamped by God with this miraculous pattern, the same pattern that is in the center of the Magen David on Israel's flag that is associated with the Son of David, the Son of Man, the Mashiach.

"A HEX ON SATURN" [It's a permanent hexagon]

"By piecing together pictures of Saturn taken by the Voyager-2 spacecraft, David A. Godfrey (National Optical Astronomy Observatories) has discovered an unusual feature in the planet's atmosphere. His mosaics reveal a hexagon centered on the north pole. Since neither probe flew directly over the pole, the complete scene has to be created by 'stretching' a series of photographs taken from the side as Saturn rotated, then fitting them into a polar projection." The straight sides of the hexagon are each about 13,800 kilometers long. The entire structure rotates with a period of 10h 39m 24s, the same period as that of the planet's radio emissions, which is assumed to be equal to the period of rotation of Saturn's interior. The hexagonal feature does not shift in longitude like the other clouds in the visible atmosphere.

The pattern's origin is a matter of much speculation. Most astronomers seem to favor some sort of standing-wave pattern in the atmosphere; but the hexagon might be a novel sort of aurora. More extreme speculation has Saturn's radio emissions emanating from the hexagon (something we can see and which has the right rotation period) rather than from the planet's interior (something we cannot see).

(Anonymous; "A Hex on Saturn," Sky and Telescope, 77:246, 1989.)

Comment. Note the similarities between the hexagon and the radial spoke structure sometimes seen in the atmosphere of Venus, as described in AVO6 in our catalog: The Moon and the Planets....
From Science Frontiers #63, MAY-JUN 1989. 1989-2000 William R. Corliss
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf063/sf063a04.htm
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Isa 66:1 says, "Thus saith the LORD (Yahweh), THE HEAVEN (Saturn?) is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? (Earth) and where is the place of my rest? (Heaven)." Lam. 2:1 says, "How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion (modern Israel) with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool (eretz, land of Israel) in the day of his anger!"

There seems to be a correlation between the hexagon pattern on the planet Saturn and the one on the back of the James-son-of-Joseph- brother-of-Yeshua ossuary. Though not clear in the picture below, the six points were marked, and lines were added to form a six-pointed star. The pattern was incised, as we can plainly see in the triple circles.

I think the triple-circled star stands for Yeshua the Messiah and the hexagon pattern on Saturn marks the place of his heavenly throne, as the halo of the rings, God's rainbow (sunshine on ice pieces), do. In John 14:2-4, he said, "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions (dwelling places): if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know (Saturn was known to the ancients), and the way ye know." We sent two Voyagers and Cassini to Saturn, so we know the way.

However, Yeshua/Jesus continued in verses 5-10, "Thomas (dear stubborn-doubting Thomas finally called him both Lord and God 8 days after the Resurrection) saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?"

John 20:24-29 says, "But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus (twin), was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut (he passed through the wall), and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

Zechariah 13:6 in the Tanach says, "And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends."

1Co 15:3-7 says, "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of JAMES."

Not one of the twelve, this half-brother of Jesus, later called James the Just, leader of the church in Jerusalem until 62 AD, only believed in Yeshua after this landmark meeting. Having the knowledge that his half-brother was resurrected proved to James that Yeshua really was the Messiah, the Redeemer (Isa. 44:6). James was willing to be put to death for his faith. At that point, he was absolutely certain that he would be resurrected too. He understood that YAH was short for Yahweh and that YSHUW'AH meant salvation (i.e., the Redeemer).

Exodus 15:1-3 says, "Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. The LORD (YHVH, Yahweh) is my strength and song, and he (Yahweh) is become my salvation (YSHUW'AH): he (YSHUW'AH) is my God (Elohim), and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. The LORD is a man of war: the LORD (Yahweh) is his name."

Rabbi Shraga Simmons: Star of David

http://judaism.about.com/library/asktherabbi/bl_simmons_starofdavid.htm

...Thus, King David used this six-pointed symbol to signify that the Almighty shields him in war. (Rabbi Moshe Feinstein - "Igrot Moshe" O.C. 3:15) ...
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Then the Star of David symbolized the Almighty, which is Christ (Rev. 1:8).

THE STAR OF DAVID

BY Messianic Rabbi Barney Kasdan
http://www.graftedin2torah.org/Jew/magendavid_m.htm

...The first concrete evidence in archaeology was found in the city of Sidon. This consisted of a ring with a seal on it in the shape of a six-pointed star, which was dated from the seventh century BCE. [Solomon's signet ring was the same.] For those who have been to Israel, you will remember the famous six-pointed star on the synagogue of Capernaum. This structure has been dated from the second century CE but it is believed to be directly over the site of an earlier synagogue, the one likely used by Yeshua himself (Luke 4:31-37).

For the centuries to follow, the star of David diversified beyond the Jewish community, with traces being found in Moslem and Christian circles as well. In the year 1190 CE, the hexagram was adapted by Christian groups in Spain as a notary for documents. Of course, the Jewish community continued to use the star as is noted by the King of Prague, who gave the Jewish community use of the symbol for a Jewish flag in 1354. The Encyclopedia Judaica makes an interesting note that the symbol seems to have been especially used among the earlier "Judeo-Christians", i.e. Messianic Jews! (see Encyclopedia Judaica article on Magen David).

By the Middle Ages, the star of David seems to have taken on a more focused emphasis. The Kabbalah (Jewish Mysticism) expanded the concept of the star from being merely the "Magen David", the shield of David, to "THE SHIELD OF THE SON OF DAVID", NAMELY, THE MESSIAH HIMSELF! Of course, according to traditional Judaism, there would be no greater warrior and deliverer than the Messiah, so this interpretation is a very logical progression....

History Of The Mogen David:

http://www.geocities.com/onein3yhvh3inone/MogenDavid.html

It [the Mogen David/Magen David] was used by Jews in the third century. It is also found on a Hebrew seal discovered in Sidon and dating from the seventh century B.C./E. It began to appear frequently on synagogues from the sixteenth century on, when the influence of the Cabalistic Isaac Luria was spreading. It also appears side by side with the Menorah, which also has been called the shield of David.

On the catacombs near Rome, where Jewish people are buried, the isignia "Magen David" is found as also on the wall surrounding the city of Jerusalem.

Interesting note: George Washington ordered the symbol of thirteen stars on the reverse side of the National Seal so arranged in five rows [one-four-three-four-one] as to create the outline of the six-pointed Star [Magen David] to honor the Jew, Chaim Solomon, who literally financed the U.S. Government through the Revolution!.

The Shield of David, [or, more popularly known as the "Star of David] is linked to the sacred Name of the L-rd, HaShem, which Jewish people do not pronounce. The Name is called "Tetragrammaton" and frequently has appeared in the center of the Magen David which custom was observed for centuries. [Magen means shield.]

It has been suggested that the combination of the triangles is taken from the ancient Hebraic signature of King David. The three letters of his name, Daled, Waw, Daled, by extension, compose a double triangle.

Jewish teachers have held that the six points of the star represent the omnipresence of G-d in all directions: east, west, north and south, also up and down.

The Hebrew term Magen David itself is made up of exactly six letters....

There are those who maintain that there is an association between the six points of the star and the six measures of barley Boaz gave to Ruth, which symbolized the fact that six great people would stem from Ruth, foremost among these being King David....

There are still others who consider it a symbol of the coming Messiah Who is scheduled to arrive after six thousand years. In this connection they claim the prophecy of Balaam in Numbers 24:17...There shall step forth a STAR out of Jacob, And a SCEPTRE shall arise out of Israel....

To us as Messianic Believers, it can show the Tri-Unity of G-d, reaching down to tri-nature man, and in Messiah Yeshua, the two are brought into fellowship.

An early Christian symbol ties the Messiah, Son of David and Saturn all together

The menorah pictures the Earth as the middle lamp, the Sun as the western lamp and Saturn as the eastern lamp, with the other naked-eye planets in order between (Josephus Ant.III.VI.7).

The simple "Sign Of The Fish" below is considered the earliest of Christian symbols and was the most common representation of Jesus Christ the Messiah from the 2nd through the 4th centuries AD. Probably appearing first in Rome, the fish represents Christ the Messiah. The Greek letters for fish, ichthus, stand for the Greek "Iesous Christos Theou Huios Soter" meaning Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior. The persecuted church developed this as a secret sign. It was scratched in walls to indicate a safe meeting place for those that believed in Yeshua.

The two intertwined triangles of the base of the menorah and the tail of the fish form the Magen David six-point star in the middle. Therefore, the intertwined triangles of the Magen (shield of) David seem to tie together inseparably the Messiah, Son of David, Yeshua, and the place of his throne, Saturn.

Incoming e-mail from CAPS, Re: "The time of the Resurrection/Harmony of the Gospel accounts" (Wednesday crucifixion)

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2002/caps1226-1.htm

Just tonight I have come to see something that I believe is absolutely incredible!...

The 4 Gospels give different views of the events concerning the resurrection of Jesus. Volumes of books have been written trying to harmonize the accounts. Christians believe that the scriptures cannot contradict themselves. That is true.

Here briefly is what I saw tonight.

Matthew's account of the visit of Mary Magdalene and the other Mary "to see" the sepulcher is DIFFERENT from the other 3 accounts. The key is to read the passages next to each other for easy comparison.

Most of the accounts of all 4 gospels have similar enough language to know they are referring to the same events. For example, by reading...Mark 16:2-8, Matthew 28:5-8, & Luke 24:1-8 we can clearly see that the events being described are on early Sunday morning when the women were bringing the spices that they had prepared to the tomb. Notice that Mark 16:1 clearly indicates this was at the "rising of the sun." This clearly is a reference to the daylight portion of Sunday morning just starting. Notice that in 2 accounts... the stone had already been rolled away!...

Notice in reading these 3 accounts the same language used, such as the phrase, " He is not here, but is risen." The start of Mark's and Luke's account indicate this was early Sunday morning. Mark says " they came to the tomb when the sun was risen."

HOWEVER, in reading the parallel account of Matthew...there is something entirely DIFFERENT. Notice in the (other) accounts that they were BRINGING THE SPICES to the tomb. Mark 16:1 says they had bought spices... Luke 24:1 also states clearly they were bringing the spices.

BUT, look at what most would feel is the same account (as) in Matthew 25:1-2:

28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Notice they were not bringing spices here, only coming to "see" the tomb!! 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

At first this seems to be the same account as Mark and Luke... But notice this difference. In Matthew's account it was the "end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week." The Greek for "dawn toward" means "draw toward" just as it is used in Luke 23:54 when the sunlight was almost over and they needed to get Jesus in the grave, it says "and the Sabbath (this is the High day Sabbath of the 15th of Nisan) 'drew on."

The Greek is the exact same and the margin reads "began to dawn." This phrase does not mean the sun coming up, but has reference to the next day starting which would be at nightfall/sunset.

So this phrase in Matt.28:1 shows that it was at the END of the weekly Sabbath as it began to dawn or draw near to the next day which was the first day of the week. Obviously, since it was at the end of the Sabbath day (weekly here) it must have been late Saturday evening, just as the next day was starting at Sunset.

Now read this carefully. What does Matt. 28:1 say? ".....came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. " Does it say they were bringing spices? NO, NO, NO. They were coming to "see" the sepulchre! Only to see it. When were they coming? At the end of the Sabbath just as it began to 'draw toward" the first day of the week!! When would that be? Just as the weekly Sabbath ended and the night portion of Saturday night began which was the first day of the week. THIS WAS NOT SUNDAY MORNING AS THE OTHER ACCOUNTS HAVE!

And what happens when Mary and Mary Magdalene come Saturday night, after the Sabbath to "see" the sepulchre?...28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 28:3 * His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

...Since Matthew 28:5-8 is almost identical to the other gospels...we know that they were on Sunday morning.....then Matthew 28:1-4 was at a different time---the previous night at sunset!! It is critical that you see that. There is therefore a "gap" between Matthew 28:4 and 28:5. You would never suspect that in reading the account of Matthew by itself. However, when comparing the section of Matt. 28:5-8 with the other accounts it is clear that this section was Sunday morning.

And it is also clear that Matthew 28:1-4 is the previous evening. Why did God allow this to be written this way? I do not know. It has been studied for hundreds of years and volumes written to try to harmonize these accounts. Clearly though, the first portion of Matt.(28:1-4) is describing the EVENT of the rolling away of the stone and a Great Earthquake, while the following portion is almost identical to the other accounts that are clearly Sunday morning.

On one visit the Earthquake happens and the stone is rolled away(Saturday at sunset) and in the next visit the stone is ALREADY rolled away(Sunday morning.)

The REASON Matthew's account is different is amazing. I believe what you are about to read is revealed by the Holy Spirit Himself. Consider these unique facts:

1.ONLY Matthew records the visit at the conclusion of the Sabbath and as it began to ''draw toward" the first day of the week. Matthew 28:1 says the 2 women came as it ''began to dawn toward the first day of the week." Yet the phrase just before this says it was "at the end of the Sabbath day." Note that the Sabbath day would end with the start of Saturday night!! Therefore this confirms that it was not the start of Sunday morning!!

Also, the same Greek phrase is used in Luke 23:54 when Jesus was being put in the tomb just at sunset. It says, "and it was the Preparation, and the sabbath 'drew on." The Greek here, in the margin, reads ' began to dawn.' This confirms that the phrase 'began to dawn' does not necessarily mean sunrise, but in these 2 instances means to start. The starting of the day began at sunset!! Remember these 2 places where the time is very SPECIFICALLY marked!! There is a profound REASON!!

2. ONLY Matthew gives the account of the "sign of Jonah!" It is found in Matt. 12:40 where Jesus said the ONLY SIGN He would give would be 3 days and 3 nights in the grave. Jesus also said, "Are there not 12 hours in a day?" This shows clearly that Jesus knew there was a daylight portion and a night portion to each 24 hour 'day.' When He uses the phrase "3 days and 3 nights" He therefore is indicating 3 days of 12 hours each and 3 nights of 12 hours each. The total is 72 hours.

Why oh why did only Matthew give this account of the sign of Jonah? Here is why. Matthew was written primarily to the Jews to prove the Kingship of Jesus. Paul, in his epistles said that the Jews seek a sign! Well, Matthew gave them one---the three days and three nights!! (Mark was written to show the Man of Jesus, Luke was written for the Gentiles, and John was written to show the Son of God.) So we see that ONLY Matthew was written primarily for the Jews and it is his account that has the SIGN OF JONAH IN IT!

3. ONLY Matthew gives the account of the Earthquake. I wonder what occurred at that time? Only Matthew gives the account of the 2 women visiting the tomb at the end of the Sabbath!! Here again is what happened just as these 2 women came to "see" the tomb at the conclusion of the weekly Sabbath. Note that Matt.28:1 says they came only to "see" the tomb....they were not bringing spices, which they did bring the next morning! Here is what occurred:

28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

28:3 * His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

Here is what must have happened next. The 2 women who came to visit or see the tomb were undoubtedly frightened by the GREAT Earthquake and the strange light from an angel. They no doubt fled from that area and went back home. THEN, the next morning they come back with other women bringing the spices!!

WHY DOES MATTHEW RECORD THIS VISIT TO THE TOMB SATURURDAY JUST AT SUNSET??? BECAUSE JESUS HAD SAID HE WOULD GIVE THE SIGN OF JONAH OF BEING IN THE TOMB 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS!! MATTHEW ONLY-- RECORDS THAT IN 12:40 AND THE FULFILLMENT OF IT IN 28:1-4!!!!

You see, brethren, that GREAT EARTHQUAKE WAS THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS JUST AT SATURDAY SUNSET EXACTLY 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS FROM THE TIME HE WAS PUT IN THE GRAVE. Now remember how Luke 23:54 SPECIFICALLY said that at the exact time that Jesus was put in the tomb, that (the) sabbath 'drew on." The Greek does not have the definite article "the"---it just reads "and sabbath drew on." This is because it was a High Day sabbath of Nisan 15, not "the" weekly Sabbath. Also remember that the phrase sabbath ' drew on' is the Greek "began to dawn." In Matthew 28:1, "In the end of THE Sabbath" does have the definite article "the" since it is referring to the weekly Sabbath.

So the EXACT time of Jesus being put in the grave is specifically NOTED!!

And, in the account of the visit to the tomb by the 2 women the EXACT time is ALSO NOTED!...28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

This show the exact time they came to visit and the exact time of the Great Earthquake!!! It was the time Jesus undoubtedly was RESURRECTED fulfilling the sign of Jonah!! Notice that just as Jesus was put in the grave at Sunset likewise He was resurrected at Sunset. The Greek in both passages clearly indicate this by saying " as it began to draw (or dawn) toward the first day of the week" and " sabbath drew on" (Gk.'began to dawn'.)

The reason that Luke 23:54 and Matt. 28:1 both are at sunset is to show it was EXACTLY 72 hours that Jesus was n the grave!!! Do you see that?!! THUS THE SCRIPTURAL CONFIRMATION OF THE SIGN OF JONAH AS RECORDED BY MATTHEW WHO WROTE FOR THE JEWISH AUDIENCE.

This show without any contradiction that the time period was to the second, 72 hours that Jesus was in the tomb. Why else would these verses be so specific to record the exact time of the entombment and the resurrection?

To those who have held out that Jesus was crucified on Friday this is the death knell of that. You cannot even get PARTS of 3 days and 3 nights between sunset Friday night and sunset Saturday night.

THE DAY OF THE CRUCIFIXION WAS WEDNEDSAY, with the burial at Sunset Wednesday night. The resurrection was exactly 72 hours later at Saturday sunset. It was at the time the 2 women visited the tomb at the end of the weekly Sabbath.... Agape

My reply

> > "and the Sabbath (this is the High day Sabbath of the 15th of Nisan) 'drew on."

CAPS, you believe that the Crucifixion was on Wednesday. I believe that a Thursday Crucifixion fits all the clues, falling naturally into place without twisting any scriptures.

Since the Crucifixion was on Thursday, Nisan 13, "THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER" (John 19:14), the following day, the High Day, was Passover, Nisan 14. John 19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because it (Thursday, Nisan 13) was THE PREPARATION, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day [Friday, Nisan 14, Passover] was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

Luke 23:50-56; 24:1,2 says, "there was a man named Joseph...he was of Arimathaea...This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. And THAT DAY WAS THE PREPARATION (Nisan 13), and the sabbath (high sabbath, Passover, Nisan 14, Lev. 23:5) drew on. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day (Saturday) according to the commandment" (one of the Ten Commandments, 'Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy,' Ex. 20:8).

Mat 28:1,2 (KJV) says, "In the end of the sabbath (lit., sabbaths, i.e., Friday, Nisan 14, Passover, and Saturday, Nisan 15, Feast of Unleavened Bread), as it began to dawn (epiphosko, grow light, i.e., daybreak) toward the first day of the week (Sunday), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it."

Mark 15:40 mentions, "Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome".

The two Marys came to the sepulchre at daybreak. Mark 16:1,2 says, "when the sabbath (Saturday) was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices (on Sunday), that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week (Sunday), they came unto the sepulchre AT THE RISING OF THE SUN."

At the rising of the sun is very clear. It is the same time as when "it began to dawn toward the first day of the week in Mt. 28:1, and "upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning" in Luke 24:1.

> > The Greek is the exact same and the margin reads "began to dawn." This phrase does not mean the sun coming up, but has reference to the next day starting which would be at nightfall/sunset.

The 12 hours of the night were past. The 12 hours of the day were starting at Sun up.

> > So this phrase in Matt.28:1 shows that it was at the END of the weekly Sabbath as it began to dawn or draw near to the next day which was the first day of the week. Obviously, since it was at the end of the Sabbath day (weekly here) it must have been late Saturday evening, just as the next day was starting at Sunset.

I think it was "AT THE RISING OF THE SUN" (Mark 16:2) on Sunday morning.

> > Now read this carefully. What does Matt. 28:1 say? ".....came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. " Does it say they were bringing spices? NO, NO, NO. They were coming to "see" the sepulchre! Only to see it. When were they coming? At the end of the Sabbath just as it began to 'draw toward" the first day of the week!! When would that be? Just as the weekly Sabbath ended and the night portion of Saturday night began which was the first day of the week. THIS WAS NOT SUNDAY MORNING AS THE OTHER ACCOUNTS HAVE!

I still think it was "AT THE RISING OF THE SUN" (Mark 16:2) on Sunday morning.

> > And what happens when Mary and Mary Magdalene come Saturday night, after the Sabbath to "see" the sepulchre?

"Mary Magdalene and the other Mary" of Mt. 28:1 are the same as the "Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome in Mark 16:1. They had "bought sweet spices" in Mark 16:1. They came unto the sepulchre "very early in the morning...bringing the spices" in Luke 24:1. All three accounts are about the same incident.

Mt. 28:6-8 says, "He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And GO QUICKLY, AND TELL HIS DISCIPLES THAT HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD; AND, BEHOLD, HE GOETH BEFORE YOU INTO GALILEE; THERE SHALL YE SEE HIM: lo, I have told you. And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word."

Mark 16:6-8 says, "he (the angel, Mt. 28:5) saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. But GO YOUR WAY, TELL HIS DISCIPLES AND PETER THAT HE GOETH BEFORE YOU INTO GALILEE: THERE SHALL YE SEE HIM, as he said unto you. And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid."

Luke 24:5-10 says, "Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. And they remembered his words, And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. IT WAS MARY MAGDALENE, AND JOANNA, AND MARY THE MOTHER OF JAMES, AND OTHER WOMEN THAT WERE WITH THEM, WHICH TOLD THESE THINGS UNTO THE APOSTLES."

> > You see, brethren, that GREAT EARTHQUAKE WAS THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS JUST AT SATURDAY SUNSET EXACTLY 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS FROM THE TIME HE WAS PUT IN THE GRAVE.

The 3 days and 3 nights of Mt. 12:40 were: Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day) and Sunday (night).

> > The reason that Luke 23:54 and Matt. 28:1 both are at sunset is to show it was EXACTLY 72 hours that Jesus was n the grave!!! Do you see that?!! THUS THE SCRIPTURAL CONFIRMATION OF THE SIGN OF JONAH AS RECORDED BY MATTHEW WHO WROTE FOR THE JEWISH AUDIENCE.

It doesn't have to be exactly 72 hours. The Jews count part of a day as one day. You are putting in a condition that is not there. That condition becomes a stumbling block.

> > THE DAY OF THE CRUCIFIXION WAS WEDNEDSAY, with the burial at Sunset Wednesday night. The resurrection was exactly 72 hours later at Saturday sunset. It was at the time the 2 women visited the tomb at the end of the weekly Sabbath.

The Crucifixion had to be on Nisan 13, "because it was THE PREPARATION" (John 19:31). "And it was THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER (John 19:14). The preparation of the Passover is the day before the Passover. The Passover is on Nisan 14 (Lev. 23:4). Therefore the preparation of the Passover was on Nisan 13.

Mat 26:5 says, "they said, NOT ON THE FEAST DAY, lest there be an uproar among the people. Mar 14:2 says, "they said, NOT ON THE FEAST DAY, lest there be an uproar of the people." Therefore, the Crucifixion was not on the Feast of the Passover. It was the preceding day, the preparation day.

According to Jewish Calendar laws, Nisan 13 can only fall on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday. This eliminates a Wednesday Crucifixion. I think the Crucifixion was on Thursday.

John 12:1,2,12,13 says, "Jesus SIX DAYS BEFORE THE PASSOVER came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. There they made him a supper (of food prepared on the previous day, on the preparation of the Sabbath)....On THE NEXT DAY (PALM SUNDAY) much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord."

The six days before the Passover were (1) Saturday, Nisan 8, (2) Sunday, Nisan 9, (3) Monday, Nisan 10, (4) Tuesday, Nisan 11, (5) Wednesday, Nisan 12, and (6) Thursday, Nisan 13, Crucifixion Day.

On Saturday, Jesus arrived at Bethany. On Sunday, he presented himself as King of Israel (Isa. 44:6). On Monday, Jesus cursed the fig tree. On Tuesday, the fig tree was dried up. Then Mark 14:1,2 says, "AFTER TWO DAYS (i.e., after Wednesday and Thursday) was the feast of the passover (Nisan 14, Friday), and of unleavened bread (Nisan 15, Saturday): and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death. But they said, NOT ON THE FEAST DAY, lest there be an uproar of the people."

The Sanhedrin met every Thursday. The Crucifixion was on Thursday. The Resurrection was on Nisan 16, Sunday.

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